What is betis leather

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This category only includes cookies that ensures basic functionalities and security features of the website. These cookies do not store any personal information. Non-necessary Non-necessary. Nice boots. I am writing not to hijack the Tasmania posting but to pose a question and bump one from some time ago on this thread--regarding a member's find of a pair of Church's on the "" last.

I bought a pair of Church's chukka boots in London maybe a dozen years ago, and, for traveler's luck I left them in Bahrain, where I trust the good folks who took care of the company rental will wear them long and in good health. I don't remember the model name, but I remember the last was Or 10?. It was not but something that could have bee a 2 or a 3 or a 7. I have many Church's shoes on , and it was not on the Much narrower in the toe.

I have some s and it is not that either. Church's will not share any information about this boot or this last. It looked just like the Tasmania, with two eyelets and a heavy double leather sole and storm welt. It was sold with rawhide laces.

It was not the Tasmania. I remember its name vaguely as English sounding. I googled and found "Durham," which is on the , but I could not say for certain it was that. Any guesses anyone? Does anyone else have anything on the last or, by chance, remember this boot? Again, Church's is not forthcoming about it or about their discontinued products, in general. Zapasman Distinguished Member. Joined Oct 2, Messages 3, Reaction score 2, The leather is a great thick calf leather that wont ever crack.

Full veg lining. Develop creases equal to premium calf. Warmth is equal to shell. The acrilyc shellack is very hard and thin, almost equal to Alden 8.

CG is equal to those shoes that are permanently waxed These gun boat soos dont fear any storm and they do not need much care from me. With love. Joined May 12, Messages Reaction score 2, Zapasma : Indeed, corrected grain is more practical than calf. And that gave me confidence, especially as I want to start a new relationship with these people.

It was a great time and quite an educational tour and I truly look forward to using their leather and building a fruitful relationship for both parties. Thank you to the Ilcea and GVT team for making this all possible. How fantastic and kind of you to share this. Getting good leather sources for the little brands and makers is about as easy as it is to spin gold from straw. I visited Prime tannery in USA which was eye opening. Very good and interesting article with a lot of details and good images!

Thank you just for a nice reading! I like your 2nd sentence as it poses a challenge, one that I would be happy to attempt if I can manage to do it right. Fascinating report. I look forward to seeing their product used in your shoes. Can I look forward to some JF museum calf offerings down the road? Great review Justin. Very informative. Thanks for all your hard work in disseminating this type of information. The assertion that leather is as good as it used to be is highly debatable.

The major problem is not the tanning or finishing, but rather the quality of the raw materials, i. Remember that leather is a by-product of meat production. What this means is that the cattle grow faster, which affects the density and strength of their hides. In turn, this translates into lower quality leather. The best tanneries may be able to source hides from more traditionally raised, heritage breeds of cattle, and hence perhaps they can make leather as good as ever.

However, for the majority of leather out there, it is likely that it is lower quality than in the past. There is also the simple fact that many traditionally great tanneries have closed e. Freudenberg, perhaps considered the best of them all.

Thanks for your input. I suspect and believe that what you say is also true. I think that it is a bit of both to be honest. I appreciate you sharing nonetheless and continue to enjoy your creations on SF.

Justin, I am so very fascinated by your article here! I cannot tell you in words how grateful I am to you that you share this information, because it is in a way very personal, business and relation-building information. For me this was a real eye-opener, since you also talk about clients and their influence on what quality is even considered!!!!

I really love to think, that the general statement, that leather has become worst, is not true. I remember, that you sometimes have said so, and now I know the factors, why we think so. We expect more than realistic. We can get high quality. We, as costumers, have to know more than what we want, but, what is realistic to want. And we really need to see and listen.

The cows themselves, this is an interesting discussion you have with shoefan: When you told me once in the Shoe-Care-fred, that leather is not so good any more, I have instantly thought about the meet-industry this is why I believed you. It is still a kind of prejudice, because it is not always true. You still can get good raw-skins. But this is a problem of production and peoples intentions, too.

Since some years now, I only eat very good biologically made meat, and I eat fewer meat, too. This is what I can do. But the feeling you give us in your article this is wonderful, the photos of this man that is so sympathetic, I would very much love to meet him, The Old Production Manager!

You give us an impression, that everything has to be considered together, and it is really an enlightening information for me, that I as a client am part of the whole. Very enlightening!